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	<title>Comments on: Are Digital Edition Releases a Boon to Warhammer 40K?</title>
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		<title>By: dynath</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dynath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I said I don&#039;t think any of this is malicious.  But a lot of GW&#039;s practices seem to defy certain common sense practices to me.  They likely have their reasons but I don&#039;t know what they are.  I think that was over all my point, not that ebook products are entirely bad but that they require more work to be put into them before they serve a significant part of the population.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said I don&#8217;t think any of this is malicious.  But a lot of GW&#8217;s practices seem to defy certain common sense practices to me.  They likely have their reasons but I don&#8217;t know what they are.  I think that was over all my point, not that ebook products are entirely bad but that they require more work to be put into them before they serve a significant part of the population.</p>
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		<title>By: Badgerboy1977</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badgerboy1977]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stand corrected, my info was clearly out of date I apologise.


Maybe this should be pointed out on BL&#039;s FB page or emailed to gw for a definitive answer as to why they&#039;re not using that standard.


Either way  I refuse to believe that gw purposefully neglect a large part of their audience, it makes no financial or business sense to do so unless there is a specific reason otherwise unknown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected, my info was clearly out of date I apologise.</p>
<p>Maybe this should be pointed out on BL&#8217;s FB page or emailed to gw for a definitive answer as to why they&#8217;re not using that standard.</p>
<p>Either way  I refuse to believe that gw purposefully neglect a large part of their audience, it makes no financial or business sense to do so unless there is a specific reason otherwise unknown.</p>
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		<title>By: dynath</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dynath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the epub 3.0 standard is what android follows, which allows for and provides tools to construct interactive features using html5 and xml.  epub 3.0 was released in 2011 and adopted by android in 2012.  The technology exists whether people use it or not.  I have a couple interactive books that include some videos and a popquiz in google play books that run on my clunky chinese android tablet. Given my 50 buck gingerbread knock off isn&#039;t nearly as sweet as an iOS device but it can do it even if no one generally does.  I&#039;m sure its far easier to just scan a book in and call it done or convert an indesign document into epub directly but those features do exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the epub 3.0 standard is what android follows, which allows for and provides tools to construct interactive features using html5 and xml.  epub 3.0 was released in 2011 and adopted by android in 2012.  The technology exists whether people use it or not.  I have a couple interactive books that include some videos and a popquiz in google play books that run on my clunky chinese android tablet. Given my 50 buck gingerbread knock off isn&#8217;t nearly as sweet as an iOS device but it can do it even if no one generally does.  I&#8217;m sure its far easier to just scan a book in and call it done or convert an indesign document into epub directly but those features do exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Badgerboy1977</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badgerboy1977]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There really aren&#039;t the same tools available for Android at all actually, I use Android phones and tablets myself and there are remarkably few interactive books available for it. All of which are individual apps which aren&#039;t in the book store and the majority of which are US only.
The only books and magazines available through the Play store (in the UK at least) are either ePubs or what appear to be pdf&#039;s in the subscription based newsstand.
There is absolutely no equivalent that allows the creation of those elements you describe in Google&#039;s system, which is one of the few things I&#039;m jealous of being an Android user]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really aren&#8217;t the same tools available for Android at all actually, I use Android phones and tablets myself and there are remarkably few interactive books available for it. All of which are individual apps which aren&#8217;t in the book store and the majority of which are US only.<br />
The only books and magazines available through the Play store (in the UK at least) are either ePubs or what appear to be pdf&#8217;s in the subscription based newsstand.<br />
There is absolutely no equivalent that allows the creation of those elements you describe in Google&#8217;s system, which is one of the few things I&#8217;m jealous of being an Android user</p>
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		<title>By: dynath</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dynath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No I understand the tools that GW is using are made for iPad. However there are equally robust tools available for google play books.  Google play&#039;s functionality is remarkably similar allowing specialized search index&#039;s and cross referencing, internal and external linking, embedded audio and video, embedded picture viewing, and popup reference linking. Literally everything iBooks does that GW is using.


But functionality is tangential to my argument.  I think we see this differently on a fundamental level.  In an abstract way your argument is that a man goes into a tool store to buy a wrench for a specific job and that wrench is only available in metric. Not his fault, no harm no foul.  However I argue that a man is building a project that a customer has to assemble themselves (needs product and tablet both), the man chooses to only use metric bolts knowing full well a portion of the market only has standard wrenches.  It&#039;s a choice right or wrong they chose and someone doesn&#039;t get a book shelf as a result.  The argument that they can&#039;t buy the kit for a 5 shelf book shelf but they can but the one for a 3 shelf book shelf doesn&#039;t enter into it because they still can&#039;t get what they want.


Frankly my friends issues with an out of date iPad isn&#039;t Games Workshop&#039;s problem.  Their decision to make more limited products on non-apple plateforms is their problem.  You are right it may be a cost issue, or a staffing issue, or a tools issue.  but it&#039;s their issue and they choose not to tell their customers anything but &quot;iPad only&quot;.  I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s healthy for a hobby that GW is purportedly interested in growing to have the best quality experience be tied to a specific device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I understand the tools that GW is using are made for iPad. However there are equally robust tools available for google play books.  Google play&#8217;s functionality is remarkably similar allowing specialized search index&#8217;s and cross referencing, internal and external linking, embedded audio and video, embedded picture viewing, and popup reference linking. Literally everything iBooks does that GW is using.</p>
<p>But functionality is tangential to my argument.  I think we see this differently on a fundamental level.  In an abstract way your argument is that a man goes into a tool store to buy a wrench for a specific job and that wrench is only available in metric. Not his fault, no harm no foul.  However I argue that a man is building a project that a customer has to assemble themselves (needs product and tablet both), the man chooses to only use metric bolts knowing full well a portion of the market only has standard wrenches.  It&#8217;s a choice right or wrong they chose and someone doesn&#8217;t get a book shelf as a result.  The argument that they can&#8217;t buy the kit for a 5 shelf book shelf but they can but the one for a 3 shelf book shelf doesn&#8217;t enter into it because they still can&#8217;t get what they want.</p>
<p>Frankly my friends issues with an out of date iPad isn&#8217;t Games Workshop&#8217;s problem.  Their decision to make more limited products on non-apple plateforms is their problem.  You are right it may be a cost issue, or a staffing issue, or a tools issue.  but it&#8217;s their issue and they choose not to tell their customers anything but &#8220;iPad only&#8221;.  I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s healthy for a hobby that GW is purportedly interested in growing to have the best quality experience be tied to a specific device.</p>
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		<title>By: Badgerboy1977</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badgerboy1977]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel you&#039;re missing the point though, GW didn&#039;t choose to only produce an interactive version for the iPad. It&#039;s simply a case of the tools not being there to create something similar for Android and Windows devices. They could possibly create individual apps for each item with similar functionality but that could well be cost prohibitive and definitely more complex. ePubs for now are the only viable alternative really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel you&#8217;re missing the point though, GW didn&#8217;t choose to only produce an interactive version for the iPad. It&#8217;s simply a case of the tools not being there to create something similar for Android and Windows devices. They could possibly create individual apps for each item with similar functionality but that could well be cost prohibitive and definitely more complex. ePubs for now are the only viable alternative really.</p>
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		<title>By: dynath</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dynath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We will have to agree to disagree on the subject of exclusivity.  In a laissez-faire economy price is an indication of rarity and exclusivity.  IE demand outstrips supply resulting in inflated prices as a result of not everyone can have the thing they want and as a result part of the value of ownership becomes you have something others don&#039;t. Thus exclusivity.  


Choosing to have the flagship product for a game be tied to a product that is already exclusive due to price is, in its self, an exclusionary decision.  Its true that a product exists for lower priced tablet markets but it is inherently different and thus a person must &quot;settle&quot; for a product even when they want something else.  It&#039;s the same idea as Limited edition codex&#039;s in print.  Its true a standard edition exists but it doesn&#039;t make the limited edition any less exclusionary. Except of course that some of these products won&#039;t see physical print and may thus are inherently exclusive to digital adopters only.  I personally feel that this exclusive practice of putting the best product on iPad devices is detrimental to the hobby but that doesn&#039;t have to be your interpretation. 


Its true that the practice does include some outlet for those without an iPad.  But its still a form of exclusivity that limits the potential customers even from within the limited pool of those who have already adopted the 40k game system.  This is what i mean by a walled garden, you have a limited selection of customers and you actively section them off into camps based on what device they support and whether that are even buying via digital releases.  This isn&#039;t necessarily a malicious decision on the part of GW but it doesn&#039;t make it a good practice in my eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will have to agree to disagree on the subject of exclusivity.  In a laissez-faire economy price is an indication of rarity and exclusivity.  IE demand outstrips supply resulting in inflated prices as a result of not everyone can have the thing they want and as a result part of the value of ownership becomes you have something others don&#8217;t. Thus exclusivity.  </p>
<p>Choosing to have the flagship product for a game be tied to a product that is already exclusive due to price is, in its self, an exclusionary decision.  Its true that a product exists for lower priced tablet markets but it is inherently different and thus a person must &#8220;settle&#8221; for a product even when they want something else.  It&#8217;s the same idea as Limited edition codex&#8217;s in print.  Its true a standard edition exists but it doesn&#8217;t make the limited edition any less exclusionary. Except of course that some of these products won&#8217;t see physical print and may thus are inherently exclusive to digital adopters only.  I personally feel that this exclusive practice of putting the best product on iPad devices is detrimental to the hobby but that doesn&#8217;t have to be your interpretation. </p>
<p>Its true that the practice does include some outlet for those without an iPad.  But its still a form of exclusivity that limits the potential customers even from within the limited pool of those who have already adopted the 40k game system.  This is what i mean by a walled garden, you have a limited selection of customers and you actively section them off into camps based on what device they support and whether that are even buying via digital releases.  This isn&#8217;t necessarily a malicious decision on the part of GW but it doesn&#8217;t make it a good practice in my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Badgerboy1977</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/are-digital-edition-releases-a-boon-to-warhammer-40k/#comment-4617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badgerboy1977]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, yes he should :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, yes he should <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Badgerboy1977</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badgerboy1977]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure I agree with you there, the ePub is available to anyone with a smart phone, tablet, laptop, pc and eReader and contains the same information as the ibooks version.
The ibooks version may be more convenient but unfortunately is only available on the Apple eco system due to there not being a similar system availabe on any other device, that&#039;s hardly GW&#039;s fault and neither really is the lack of power in earlier iPads.
They&#039;ve produced something that has all the flair for those that have the equipment to access it and charge a premium for that due to the benefits it provides and then you have the ePub and quite often a print copy for the rest.
Can&#039;t really see how that excludes anyone to be honest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I agree with you there, the ePub is available to anyone with a smart phone, tablet, laptop, pc and eReader and contains the same information as the ibooks version.<br />
The ibooks version may be more convenient but unfortunately is only available on the Apple eco system due to there not being a similar system availabe on any other device, that&#8217;s hardly GW&#8217;s fault and neither really is the lack of power in earlier iPads.<br />
They&#8217;ve produced something that has all the flair for those that have the equipment to access it and charge a premium for that due to the benefits it provides and then you have the ePub and quite often a print copy for the rest.<br />
Can&#8217;t really see how that excludes anyone to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: dynath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dynath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, he says it should have the index not just show you what the unit&#039;s rules and essential options are but also include a basic picture of what the model generally looks like. A model identification function i guess. That&#039;s a tournament useful function I&#039;d say. Which arguably GW doesn&#039;t support tournaments so not surprising it doesn&#039;t exist.


He also should open his own disquss account too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, he says it should have the index not just show you what the unit&#8217;s rules and essential options are but also include a basic picture of what the model generally looks like. A model identification function i guess. That&#8217;s a tournament useful function I&#8217;d say. Which arguably GW doesn&#8217;t support tournaments so not surprising it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>He also should open his own disquss account too.</p>
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