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	<title>Comments on: Escalation Poll: Will the new Supplements Change Your 40K?</title>
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		<title>By: KJensen</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4818</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure these releases won&#039;t have a huge impact on how the people in my area play their games. Generally everyone is pretty good at finding a common ground when it comes to the &quot;level&quot; of the game, with games ranging from hardcore No Army Selection brutality to completely fluffy battles full of silly units.

My main concern is for events outside of local groups, where an official format has to be adopted for it to work for all attendees. 

As far as I know, both Escalation and Stronghold are not &quot;expansions&quot; and as such are as much part of the rules as individual codexes and supplemental codexes. This pretty much means, that without event restrictions, people WILL show up with some seriously silly Super Heavy / Fortification combinations, which might just prove to give their opponents are really bad time - and no event team wants that to happen to any of their &quot;guests&quot;.

I kinda&#039; see Escalation and Stronhold getting comp&#039;ed out of tournaments, but they&#039;ll probably see decent enough action in day to day gaming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure these releases won&#8217;t have a huge impact on how the people in my area play their games. Generally everyone is pretty good at finding a common ground when it comes to the &#8220;level&#8221; of the game, with games ranging from hardcore No Army Selection brutality to completely fluffy battles full of silly units.</p>
<p>My main concern is for events outside of local groups, where an official format has to be adopted for it to work for all attendees. </p>
<p>As far as I know, both Escalation and Stronghold are not &#8220;expansions&#8221; and as such are as much part of the rules as individual codexes and supplemental codexes. This pretty much means, that without event restrictions, people WILL show up with some seriously silly Super Heavy / Fortification combinations, which might just prove to give their opponents are really bad time &#8211; and no event team wants that to happen to any of their &#8220;guests&#8221;.</p>
<p>I kinda&#8217; see Escalation and Stronhold getting comp&#8217;ed out of tournaments, but they&#8217;ll probably see decent enough action in day to day gaming.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4814</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imo I believe that a super heavy like a stormlord is a win if it&#039;s on the board unless my opponent made a list to handle 2 to 3 land raiders. If a space marine devastator squad with las cannons gets lucky they can kill a super heavy in one shooting phase........really lucky. So think it&#039;s balanced and can be adapted to but I don&#039;t think that people would meld super heavies into normal games because of the price of them! At least for us who have to order them at almost double the price because the American dollar sucks :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imo I believe that a super heavy like a stormlord is a win if it&#8217;s on the board unless my opponent made a list to handle 2 to 3 land raiders. If a space marine devastator squad with las cannons gets lucky they can kill a super heavy in one shooting phase&#8230;&#8230;..really lucky. So think it&#8217;s balanced and can be adapted to but I don&#8217;t think that people would meld super heavies into normal games because of the price of them! At least for us who have to order them at almost double the price because the American dollar sucks <img src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zweischneid</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4809</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice catch there from Natfka

Even GW guys are confused it seems ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice catch there from Natfka</p>
<p>Even GW guys are confused it seems <img src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: belverker</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4808</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I won&#039;t use it much (sisters got no love from what I have heard) and yhe lord of skulls is still on my to buy list, but many at the club have super heavies so I think they&#039;ll be wanting to use them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t use it much (sisters got no love from what I have heard) and yhe lord of skulls is still on my to buy list, but many at the club have super heavies so I think they&#8217;ll be wanting to use them</p>
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		<title>By: Royce Trounson</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Royce Trounson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the way people reacted to flyers, we got used to that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the way people reacted to flyers, we got used to that</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Guardsman</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy Guardsman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the dark horse is Strong Hold assault.  In terms of cost effectiveness it has far more potential to change the game and to counter the dreaded D weapons.  For example the revenant titan is 900, a void shield generator with 3 void shields is only 100, you can get 2 of these, that means you can negate a significant portion of that titan&#039;s firepower at 1/9th the cost.  So if you are worried about super heavies but want a counter, there are more than a few that are quite a bit cheaper than those bad boys.  No one is really talking about fortifications and they are going to sneak in a be a far bigger part of the game than super heavies]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the dark horse is Strong Hold assault.  In terms of cost effectiveness it has far more potential to change the game and to counter the dreaded D weapons.  For example the revenant titan is 900, a void shield generator with 3 void shields is only 100, you can get 2 of these, that means you can negate a significant portion of that titan&#8217;s firepower at 1/9th the cost.  So if you are worried about super heavies but want a counter, there are more than a few that are quite a bit cheaper than those bad boys.  No one is really talking about fortifications and they are going to sneak in a be a far bigger part of the game than super heavies</p>
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		<title>By: Hive Senteniel</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hive Senteniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I currently have no super-heavy models. But if I got one I feel I&#039;ll pretty much only use &quot;Escalation&quot; in specifically designated games of for &quot;Escalation&quot;. Just because the idea of bringing a Super-heavy to every game kind of takes the fun out of super-heavy units.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently have no super-heavy models. But if I got one I feel I&#8217;ll pretty much only use &#8220;Escalation&#8221; in specifically designated games of for &#8220;Escalation&#8221;. Just because the idea of bringing a Super-heavy to every game kind of takes the fun out of super-heavy units.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobthemim</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobthemim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see this going the way of Storms of Magic.. not played at all outside of gaming groups.


This time next month will be a new army and out with the old..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this going the way of Storms of Magic.. not played at all outside of gaming groups.</p>
<p>This time next month will be a new army and out with the old..</p>
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		<title>By: Yggdrasil</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/escalation-warhammer-40k-poll/#comment-4797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yggdrasil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Voted &quot;Yes, negligible&quot;. 
Not enough models to play Apocalypse, though I might be tempted to get my hands on a Baneblade with Escalation... And maybe, have it painted by the end of 2027... :]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voted &#8220;Yes, negligible&#8221;.<br />
Not enough models to play Apocalypse, though I might be tempted to get my hands on a Baneblade with Escalation&#8230; And maybe, have it painted by the end of 2027&#8230; :</p>
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