Comments on: January White Dwarf Battle Report – A Sign of Things to Come?

By: The New February 2014 White Dwarf

The New February 2014 White Dwarf — Sat, 01 Feb 2014 10:40:19 +0000

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By: Hive Senteniel

Hive Senteniel — Thu, 09 Jan 2014 20:40:00 +0000

Well it’s not so much becoming Apocalypse it’s more like here’s a way to add this one super-big OP unit in your game. Which is neat, but in Apocalypse the sheer number of units and heavy supports balances it out. Yet in Escalation that one OP unit is pretty much your army right there. And I do agree, the addition of a Revenant, or Baneblade, or Harridan leaves little room for a full army and makes the game much smaller than it would be without them. Like I said previously, I wish the Forgeworld models would either be toned down for normal 40k or GW eventually releases their own superheavies for armies (maybe via Dataslate).

By: Mr. Wizard

Mr. Wizard — Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:09:00 +0000

The problem I have with turning normal 40k into apocalypse where only larger models fight it out is that you lose the sense of scale that you get from a 40k game which is its main draw over other games such as warmahordes or infinity. Also as everyone else has been wise to point out Warhammer has a lot of balance problems and with the addition of super heavys and monstrous creature with really high toughness you run into rock paper scissors problems where only a few models in an army can take something out and they are dealt with easily enough.

By: Bobthemim

Bobthemim — Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:29:00 +0000

not rantish at all..it needs more balance.

Just as people got used to flyers (with all the anti-flyer stuff there is), escalation turned up.. allowing Necrons to take the av12 12shot D weapon thing for only 300ish points..

in a 1500 point game that will destroy half of your army..

By: Hive Senteniel

Hive Senteniel — Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:10:00 +0000

True, escalation is becoming pretty common. An unfortunately for other players that Revenant Titan is far too powerful. While I like Escalation I do notice a lack of balance with it. Hopefully the D-weapons will be rectified or even more interesting FW models will get removed and GW makes their own LoW for games. Imagine an Eldar super-construct, Tyranid Bio-titan or Big Orky squig monster (or vehicle). Maybe then It will be a bit more balanced and everyone will stop complaining it’s “broke the game”. Sorry if that seems rantish, but just wishful thinking.

By: Bobthemim

Bobthemim — Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:51:00 +0000

fraid to say that escalation is the norm for 40k now..

Not fun to play orks and the opponent pulls out a Reaver.. The only things in the list that could hurt it was the PK’s.. which were dealt with pretty sharpish

By: Zweischneid

Zweischneid — Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:05:00 +0000

I guess they could’ve made the lists more or less legal, if they cared. True, there is Farsight. The Tyranid-list however literally has not a single troop choice, and they say rather explicitly in the write-up that they didn’t bother.

By: Hive Senteniel

Hive Senteniel — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 23:30:00 +0000

As I commented previously I wish we had seen a normal 40k game over an Escalation battle. Escalation is fun and all, but I do totally feel that GW is encouraging big kits over little kits like troops (makes sense though). but this did seem to make several tyranid players a bit nervous. For example, we didn’t get to see how Hive Guard work or how Lictors or Stealers were affected by the new Dex. But hey, I guess we’ll just find out when the new dex drops

By: Royce Trounson

Royce Trounson — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 21:09:00 +0000

Farsight was in the list, so crisis suits are troop. If they used the farsight supplement. It wasn’t actually far from legal. I think that all it heralds is that the white dwarf staff are turning to power gamers style lists as they are all that seem to exist in tournaments now