http://manticblog.com/2014/06/17/azure-forest-ltd-edition/

Game, set and match i think…

I think you are getting worked up a bit.

I said Azure Forest is a good product, but that (from the information available to the public (!) ), Mantic is re-releasing a product they previously claimed was limited.

If indeed a Mantic employee is reading this and has information that shows how I was wrong, it should be easy to put it up somewhere on Mantic’s page, Mantic’s blog, etc..

Until then, I’ll judge things by the information “publicly” available (as I do for all wargaming-related stuff I see, .e.g GW, etc….)

By that measure, this is a poor way by Mantic to treat their customers. I am not claiming Mantic is the next Enron, but it is disappointing enough that I feel I should point it out to my readers.

Either way, I cannot form opinions about Mantic products on the basis of company-inside information, just as I cannot do that for GW, or Privateer Press, etc… . I can only offer a customer-perspective.

I’ve taken the “left-over” theory to heart. It’s a plausible theory.

But I have not seen the warehouses, and it is besides the point. If customers need to see Mantic’s warehouse to know they aren’t duped with false Limited Editions, it’s still poor communications by Mantic.

And even if the “left-over”-theory is true, and I get to see the warehouses, it’s still poor form that Mantic feels they need to make “small print” exceptions like this to their “Limited Editions”

Again, the easiest solution would be to not market it as “Limited Edition”, if it isn’t that.

I mean what makes you think that he would actually believe someone who works there and is telling us that it is made from the 1st run.Do you think we live in a sane society where people trust one another.

I dont think anything short of what I mentioned above will make this guy see sense. I think hes a bit over the nest now.

I bet you he doesnt even offer an apology. In his own little world he thinks hes stumbled on the biggest conspiracy ever…..Very sad.

Well Zweischneid its beginning to look like you were wrong…. Hope you have a retraction and apology ready

i agree totally with a couple of points raised by Zweischneid.

1, it is indeed a good addition to the game as it changes quite a lot of things that are going on with what the weather can do.

2, If you do not have the game but are thinking of getting it, then definitely get this one ordered in NOW.

The rest of the article is totally wrong. As having been in the warehouse when they were delivered and again recently, there are plenty of the original stock present as they have not all been sold. Why not add them to the boxed game to make it even more appealing to those not yet purchased it.

Limited Edition….. What does this mean????

For me it is a one time offer, once they are ALL gone then you cant get them again.

This is what is happening here. They have NOT ALL gone, they have just been added to another product making this product a Limited Edition because once the Azure Forest book, cards etc have ALL GONE then they wont be available again.

Basically you would need to check the facts before printing articles like this damning a company (any company) without ALL the facts. This will make anything you say in the future not very believable.

Maybe you think its obvious that they should have stated that these were made from the same print run as the original 3000, but I think that on a whole the majority of people out there are not as suspicious and angry as you.

However lessons to be learnt going forwards I suppose. If you are going to offer a deal, make sure you cover every nuance of information about it otherwise people will misinterpret it and fly off the handle as you have been so quick to do.