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By: chuckwilliams
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3348 chuckwilliams Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:50:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3348
I got a Grey Knight Dread that is about 5% smaller than the real one. Talk about odd
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By: Zweischneid
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3346 Zweischneid Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:46:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3346
A fair few people on Dakka now actually think Black Crusade Studio may be a front for Mr. Mandelbaum (judging from, I think, patters similar to previous scams, not any definite proof).
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By: Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3344 Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation Wed, 28 Aug 2013 06:08:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3344
oddly many of those fakes (though not all) are significantly better cast than most of Forgeworld’s genuine products…
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By: BrassScorpion
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3333 BrassScorpion Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:37:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3333
The Golden Demon fiasco has happened before and more than once. Therefore, it will most assuredly happen again. Sometimes the participants caught this way claim they didn’t know the rules and were entering for a friend who couldn’t make it to Games Day, other times it’s deliberate deception. It makes little sense when there’s nothing of value to win, but there you go. People cheat at all kinds of things when there’s nothing to be won, no fame or money or valuable prizes. I suppose some people do it because they’re lying to themselves and they do it to bloat their own insecure ego. I see people cheating on Xbox Live video games and it’s the same situation, frustrating for the other players and there’s nothing real to gain by doing it, but some people will do anything to win even though they didn’t legitimately earn it.
There are fake Forge World models on eBay all the time from certain regular sellers in Russia and China. Forge World, unlike their parent company, does not sell their product at wholesale prices to retailers, therefore anyone offering Forge World products at list prices or below on a regular basis is selling fakes. There’s even a Forge World discounter selling online from the UK and that also definitely has to be recast product and not authentic product.
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By: chuckwilliams
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3332 chuckwilliams Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:46:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3332
Don’t forget the eBay casters. Kiddies, if you’re buying Forge World products on eBay, and they’re coming from China or Russia… don’t be shocked when they are fakes. Also, the Easter Bunny… he isn’t real. Tooth Fairy… same deal.
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By: Zweischneid
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3331 Zweischneid Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:35:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3331
Interesting story. Another, more chronological account here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/538614.page
I guess it is not uncommon (sadly). There are even some similarities to the Black Crusade Studio thingy (e.g. sales exclusively through Facebook private messages).
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By: Tom Evans
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3330 Tom Evans Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:42:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3330
Also tried sending a cease and desist on dakka using a fake German security firm.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/526190.page
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By: Zweischneid
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3329 Zweischneid Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:11:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3329
Alright. I give it a look. Thanks.
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By: Curnow
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3328 Curnow Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:09:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3328
No not recast just another proxie for mathew maundelbaum/redstarone/three stage studios/double yourbits/etc etc. Normal business practice was to open up with a load of lokes on facebook give speil about how he has been in the hobby locally for ages and then offer products cheap fulfill the first load of orders get them to build repretation thwn draw even more people in with a super great offer thwn take the money and run . Give it a google .
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By: Adam Nguyen
https://pinsofwar.com/the-shady-side-of-the-hobby/#comment-3327 Adam Nguyen Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:06:00 +0000 https://pinsofwar.com/?p=19623#comment-3327
Yes. And its still functioning.
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