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		<title>By: Zweischneid</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4730</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 08:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In parts. I think Games Workshops miniatures ARE competitively priced for the big things like the Wraithknight or Riptide. Those are a lot cheaper and come with a lot more options than, say, Dreamforge Leviathans or PP Colossals.

There&#039;s no money in &quot;basic infantry&quot;. Newer companies like Mantic Games, for example, don&#039;t even bother to make miniatures for their basic human factions in Kings of War. There&#039;s no point. GW, so far, is dragging the legacy of unprofitable things like the Warhammer Empire or Bretonnian Army around with them, and need to balance it all the more aggressively with top-sellers like the Riptide.

I think this *GW has to give* may (should? must?) happen at some point. But, ideally, it&#039;ll come from two ends. Culling the dead weight armies from their line (probably half of the Fantasy armies and 2 or 3 non-Space Marine armies from 40K) to, hopefully, be a bit less &quot;Riptides-in-your-face&quot; with the leaner, more profitable lines that are left.

And for painters, a lot of miniature painters (non-gamers) are happy to buy a Riptide or Wraithknight to show off. Or a nice 20 quid plastic HQ sprue. No &quot;painter-only&quot; buys 40 Empire State Troops to show off his skills. Those are the &quot;game only&quot; miniatures.

 I think the painters, if anything, they amplify the problem. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In parts. I think Games Workshops miniatures ARE competitively priced for the big things like the Wraithknight or Riptide. Those are a lot cheaper and come with a lot more options than, say, Dreamforge Leviathans or PP Colossals.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no money in &#8220;basic infantry&#8221;. Newer companies like Mantic Games, for example, don&#8217;t even bother to make miniatures for their basic human factions in Kings of War. There&#8217;s no point. GW, so far, is dragging the legacy of unprofitable things like the Warhammer Empire or Bretonnian Army around with them, and need to balance it all the more aggressively with top-sellers like the Riptide.</p>
<p>I think this *GW has to give* may (should? must?) happen at some point. But, ideally, it&#8217;ll come from two ends. Culling the dead weight armies from their line (probably half of the Fantasy armies and 2 or 3 non-Space Marine armies from 40K) to, hopefully, be a bit less &#8220;Riptides-in-your-face&#8221; with the leaner, more profitable lines that are left.</p>
<p>And for painters, a lot of miniature painters (non-gamers) are happy to buy a Riptide or Wraithknight to show off. Or a nice 20 quid plastic HQ sprue. No &#8220;painter-only&#8221; buys 40 Empire State Troops to show off his skills. Those are the &#8220;game only&#8221; miniatures.</p>
<p> I think the painters, if anything, they amplify the problem. </p>
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		<title>By: SRSFACE</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4729</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 08:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t argue with that. I will still say, though, the issue isn&#039;t the &quot;not doing something&quot; digital thing so much as it is making digital things not usable with a laptop/desktop. I know that smart phones and even tablets to a lesser degree are fairly ubiquitous nowadays but they are cost prohibitive to simply get one for the sake of having one, especially if it&#039;s also just to utilize as a digital device just for wargaming.


Still, I would just like to say my original argument, the main thing I wanted people to take from it is GW *has* to give somewhere. They ARE dying and I think it&#039;s for two reasons. Their models are no longer competitively priced for people who simply do modeling as a hobby, so it&#039;s only appealing to fans of the universe/game. There&#039;s a lot of us that are that, true, but there are still even more people who like to paint and model miniatures for the sake of the hobby. Now that the majority of their purchases are just in it for the game, their outmoded model for pushing gameplay and rules out the door doesn&#039;t hold water in today&#039;s era of PC and digital gaming, where it&#039;s possible to tweak and balance a game on a daily basis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t argue with that. I will still say, though, the issue isn&#8217;t the &#8220;not doing something&#8221; digital thing so much as it is making digital things not usable with a laptop/desktop. I know that smart phones and even tablets to a lesser degree are fairly ubiquitous nowadays but they are cost prohibitive to simply get one for the sake of having one, especially if it&#8217;s also just to utilize as a digital device just for wargaming.</p>
<p>Still, I would just like to say my original argument, the main thing I wanted people to take from it is GW *has* to give somewhere. They ARE dying and I think it&#8217;s for two reasons. Their models are no longer competitively priced for people who simply do modeling as a hobby, so it&#8217;s only appealing to fans of the universe/game. There&#8217;s a lot of us that are that, true, but there are still even more people who like to paint and model miniatures for the sake of the hobby. Now that the majority of their purchases are just in it for the game, their outmoded model for pushing gameplay and rules out the door doesn&#8217;t hold water in today&#8217;s era of PC and digital gaming, where it&#8217;s possible to tweak and balance a game on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Zweischneid</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4728</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I suppose Apple for all their child-enslaving ways simple make it easy to create good-looking, easy to use products. There&#039;s a reason Apple has some 80% of the (tablet, not phone) market, and it ain&#039;t GWs fault.

And while I prefer physical copies too, I remember very well that less than a year ago, everyone was complaining that GW wasn&#039;t doing anything digital and effectively still living in the early 90s. Now they test digital offers, and it&#039;s wrong again unless they make sure they print and ship every last little digital test-balloon they launch.

It&#039;s a damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t kind of situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suppose Apple for all their child-enslaving ways simple make it easy to create good-looking, easy to use products. There&#8217;s a reason Apple has some 80% of the (tablet, not phone) market, and it ain&#8217;t GWs fault.</p>
<p>And while I prefer physical copies too, I remember very well that less than a year ago, everyone was complaining that GW wasn&#8217;t doing anything digital and effectively still living in the early 90s. Now they test digital offers, and it&#8217;s wrong again unless they make sure they print and ship every last little digital test-balloon they launch.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t kind of situation.</p>
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		<title>By: SRSFACE</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4727</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You ever tried using one of those ebook versions? They are awful. Maybe it&#039;s because I don&#039;t want to shell out the money to get a worthwhile e-reader app, but all the free ones I&#039;ve used have horribly clunky interfaces. They might as well only be selling the apple versions of them, as at least the usability of the interactive features is nice.


Plus, having to store rules on my phone does not appeal to me. I&#039;d simple prefer a hard copy and I know I&#039;m not alone in that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ever tried using one of those ebook versions? They are awful. Maybe it&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t want to shell out the money to get a worthwhile e-reader app, but all the free ones I&#8217;ve used have horribly clunky interfaces. They might as well only be selling the apple versions of them, as at least the usability of the interactive features is nice.</p>
<p>Plus, having to store rules on my phone does not appeal to me. I&#8217;d simple prefer a hard copy and I know I&#8217;m not alone in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Zweischneid</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zweischneid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Games Workshop offers their digital products for non-Apple products too. 

Don&#039;t read that as a counter to the rest of your argument, but the myth that GW digital products are Apple-only appears to be strangely persistent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Games Workshop offers their digital products for non-Apple products too. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t read that as a counter to the rest of your argument, but the myth that GW digital products are Apple-only appears to be strangely persistent.</p>
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		<title>By: SRSFACE</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SRSFACE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re stupid to go this route. All they are doing is just promoting piracy of their own products, and they are too stupid to realize it. People are not going to fork over the cost of a hamburger, drink and fries for rules for A SINGLE model. Especially if it&#039;s digital only. I refuse to get an iAnything device because Apple is a crooked company enslaving chinese workers, and their ebook versions of the other products, that I&#039;ve read through, are clunky.


I hope to hope to hope that GW sees the success of Warmachine and realizes the rules should be free for all armies, and printed online, for free, so they can also be updated whenever the need arises to rebalance the game and actually make it fun for everyone rather than just the guys running Tau/Eldar cheese lists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re stupid to go this route. All they are doing is just promoting piracy of their own products, and they are too stupid to realize it. People are not going to fork over the cost of a hamburger, drink and fries for rules for A SINGLE model. Especially if it&#8217;s digital only. I refuse to get an iAnything device because Apple is a crooked company enslaving chinese workers, and their ebook versions of the other products, that I&#8217;ve read through, are clunky.</p>
<p>I hope to hope to hope that GW sees the success of Warmachine and realizes the rules should be free for all armies, and printed online, for free, so they can also be updated whenever the need arises to rebalance the game and actually make it fun for everyone rather than just the guys running Tau/Eldar cheese lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Hive Senteniel</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hive Senteniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2013 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s even a glimpse of Cypher and the phrase &quot;A warrior will return from the shadows&quot; in the trailer. No idea if he&#039;ll be for both dex&#039;s though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s even a glimpse of Cypher and the phrase &#8220;A warrior will return from the shadows&#8221; in the trailer. No idea if he&#8217;ll be for both dex&#8217;s though.</p>
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		<title>By: belverker</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[belverker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rumors are cypher is the christmas day release, hopefully  rules for both csm and dark angels]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rumors are cypher is the christmas day release, hopefully  rules for both csm and dark angels</p>
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		<title>By: GW&#039;s Second Advent Calendar - Tau Fire Support Cadre</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GW&#039;s Second Advent Calendar - Tau Fire Support Cadre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 19:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] we saw a new (and powerful) Character for Chaos Space Marines and Chaos Daemons (and the two Chaos Fantasy [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] we saw a new (and powerful) Character for Chaos Space Marines and Chaos Daemons (and the two Chaos Fantasy [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Thirteenthirtyseven</title>
		<link>https://pinsofwar.com/warhammer-40k-belakor-released/#comment-4705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cameron Thirteenthirtyseven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its a good idea, but i feel you&#039;re right that their execution will splinter the game. It would be easier to pull off if the cost was less (i&#039;d buy that for a dollar) but at this cost its kinda silly and just going to bring back the old FAQ shenanigans where people where working off different understandings of the rules, with no easy way to solve the issue but to spend more to keep up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its a good idea, but i feel you&#8217;re right that their execution will splinter the game. It would be easier to pull off if the cost was less (i&#8217;d buy that for a dollar) but at this cost its kinda silly and just going to bring back the old FAQ shenanigans where people where working off different understandings of the rules, with no easy way to solve the issue but to spend more to keep up</p>
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