Comments on: Dataslate: Cypher – Lord of the Fallen

By: Azrell

Azrell — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:24:00 +0000

It seem like a pore design chose to let everyone play with cypher but the people that would be most interested in him. It would have been more interesting to have found a way for the DA player to take cypher and force him into the other players army… kind of like the DAs knew he was there but the other player didnt even know his army had been infiltrated by the fallen… you know like in the fluff.

By: Yggdrasil

Yggdrasil — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:28:00 +0000

I mean that I had thought of using the “Veterans” entry & rules as a “counts as” for Fallen Dark Angels…

Now I cannot

By: Bobthemim

Bobthemim — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:55:00 +0000

You can still do that… just cant field them as DA as the DA that exists now is post-heresy. So much so, even Greenwing gets the benefits from “not knowing”

By: Yggdrasil

Yggdrasil — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 00:11:00 +0000

Well, I had had some plans of a squad of DA Veterans to tag along Cypher, it did seem fluffy (some old Dark Angels, painted in black under their robes) and without the 40k-esque issues you’re mentioning !
Too bad…

And the eBook price tag is a bit high indeed :

By: Bobthemim

Bobthemim — Thu, 26 Dec 2013 03:08:00 +0000

odd that it would cost that much.

By: Ruska

Ruska — Thu, 26 Dec 2013 02:28:00 +0000

I’m aware that it’s in the GW store – I got mine for $16 including shipping. From GW it would have been $28.21 after shipping.

By: Bobthemim

Bobthemim — Thu, 26 Dec 2013 00:31:00 +0000

For one Cypher is still available on the GW website..

and for another the DA book is set AFTER the Fallen and have all the perks of that came with it.. Like the 4++ sheild, the Slavo Banner, Ravenwing/deathwing etc..

So him being used for SM would work for a Fallen-esque army

By: Ruska

Ruska — Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:48:00 +0000

I’m in the same boat as you regarding mixed feelings. Obviously you can run a Fallen list using vanilla marines, but then it loses some of the flavor. This is pretty much what I’ve been doing anyways, given how weak the Dark Angels codex is currently.

By: Mr. Wizard

Mr. Wizard — Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:39:00 +0000

It seems foolish that you can’t include him in a dark angels list but you can in every other space marine codex seeing as it would be cool to run a fallen list with him. It would make sense to have a rule such as no other named characters could be taken with him. Originally I was quite excited about this but now I am a little bit disappointed.

By: Hive Senteniel

Hive Senteniel — Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:51:00 +0000

I was completely taken aback but the price but it’s really worth it. You get missions and a dataslate w/ really excellent fluff and an amazingly efficient character who isn’t badly priced (points wise) for what he can do game wise. All in all, Marine players you’ll love this and I highly recommend it.