Space Marine Rumours: The Floodgates Are Open

More Space Marine Rumours

For whatever reason, Games Workshop’s super-trademark Space Marine release appears to be leaking earlier than expected (by the usual “early-White Dwarf” pace of things).

Earlier today, I did a short Space Marines Rumour compilation of what’s been out there. A little while ago, Faeit212 broke with a new set of information, including US$ pricing on the new Space Marines (US$ 78,- for 3 of the new Centurion “Super-Terminators”!).

Hot on Natfka’s heels, Herr Dexter from Dakkadakka is throwing in his write up from his early preview of the White Dwarf.

Have a read:

Rumours by Herr Dexter

Hey guys

I managed to get a deeper look into the upcoming White Dwarf which obviously showcases the new SM stuff. I promised not to take any pictures and since my possible future early insight into WD depends on it – I won’t
Take it as you wish, but this isn’t salt – this is what exactly is coming

BOOKS:
- Codex: Space Marines with a very nice picture of badass looking Space Marine (probably best C:SM cover so far)
- confirmed the 7 limited versions
- none showed in WD, all mentioned obviously as mail-order only
- small Apocalypse Warzone will also be released (unsure if it’s digital only or not) – Damnos (see the BL book “Fall of Damnos” – basicly Necrons vs. Ultramarines)

PLASTIC KITS:

Space Marine Captain & Space Marine Librarian (2 separate clamp-packs)
- not to confuse with multi-part customisable Space Marines Commander set which should stay around
- those are like Cadre Fireblade, Aspiring Champion etc… 1 pose, plastic
- Captain has Cato Sicarius-like helmet and lots of bling, has a very similar pose to Captain from AOBR, Power Sword and Combi-Grav
- Librarian has beard (a lot of SM beards + bald heads in this release) and a skull-cap thingy wihich makes him look a bit like… Merlin
- Librarian also has a power staff (or whatever you call that) held horizontally, and one ugly herub-like servitor cupid (creepy stuff)

Reclusiam Command Squad
- not sure if this replaces SM Command Squad kit
- contains the mentioned SM Command Squad (don’t see any changes here), a plastic Chaplain and… Razorback – all for 55£
- this definetly isn’t the prettiest Chaplain model out there but it has some nice bitz, nice big skully Crozius and 2 heads – one bald with Kano-like face implant and the other is a skull helmet (looks a bit iffy)
- he also has purity seals with massive ribbons/parchments blown by the wind

Sternguard Veterans
- A W E S O M E!
- all the best elements fromt heir old metal versions, long loincloths, tons of bling, ornaments on helmets and armor, seems to have lot of bitz
- finally we get plastic versions of combi-weapons, all seem to be here including the new Combi-Grav
- nice new plastic Heavy Flamer and Heavy Bolter (version with drum-mag)
- badass heads and poses (yap, another bald head with beard)
- sergeant has a “roman-mohawk” on his helmet (not the Sicarius one, other way around)
- 5 models in box

Vanguard Veterans
- slightly less bling then their on-foot veteran brothers
- nice ornaments on chainswords and power sword (relic/master-crafted versions?)
- mohawk head for sarge (like Lord Executioner, perhaps it’s a trend for jump-packers?)
- some nice aquila markings on jump packs
- awesome power-sword / relic blade
- not as jaw dropping as Sternguards, sadly
- 5 models in box

(NEW) Tactical Squad
- 10 models, price increased slightly (we could have seen that coming, couldn’t we?)
- not many changes here, will nicely mix with bits from old kit
- major addition is more head variants and new Grav-Gun and Grav-Pistol
- some new ornaments on backpacks and shoulder pads (not all, just few bits to make some difference among marines)
- interesting bits: Auspex is back! (but DA heralded that already), set of bolter/arms during reload (looks cool), badass Combi-Flamer, nice new (smaller) Power Fist
- I would suggest buying a box of Tactical Squad that’s currently in sale before next month (it’ll surely be gone by then) to have a wider array of bits (unless you already have tons of them)

Now let’s clear some rumors regarding new vehicles:
- NO new rhino kit, still the same, old, badly cast chassis with massive holes after you glue it :( (
- NO new versions of Razorback / Predator / Whirlwind – all stays the same apparently
- NO sign of Rhino-variants (but perhaps they just differ rule-wise)
- NO “Big Walker” – forget about Dreadknight / Riptide / Wraithknight counterpart for SM :((
- NO new Skimmers / Flyers (especially no sign of one that was mentioned in rumours recently)
- NO new Bikes, Landriders or Dreadnaughts :(
- basicly, unless I mention it as a kit above or below – it’s not getting any update / remake / new model

Stalker / Hunter
- the rumored dual-kit AA tank
- lots of new parts, side armor is massive and has some kind of pistons that seem to be pinning it to the ground
- front plate is also different from other vehicles on Rhino-chassis: Stalker / Hunter has one that looks a bit Heresy-era with a “bumper” that looks similarly to the one Landspeeder has (that belt-of-cubes bumper thing)

- Stalker is the one with dual 3-barrel autocannon-like guns, it also has a nice radar dish, really badass look
- it’s described as rapid-firing AA (guess it’s SM version of IG Hydra)
- now here’s big thing: it’s not twin-link! those are TWO SEPARATE guns that are mentioned to be able to shoot at TWO SEPARATE targets

- Hunter is the one that looks like that vintage SM Hunter tank – one massive AA turret barrel
- shoots “Skyspear Rockets” but no details on special rules here

Centurion Devastator Squad / Centurion Assault Squad
- the “Big Suits” everyone is talking about, apparently they are this release’s big spotlight
- Devastators are Heavy Support (duh!) and Assaults are… Fast Attack (what did you expect?)
- come in plastic kits, 3 models per box
- they really look like if the exoskelton is worn ON the Power Armour – their heads look super tiny
- they remind me more of power loader that Ripley piloted in Aliens movie than “child of contemptor and dread” as someone described
- they all seem to have same weapon in each hand and something mounted on the chest
- the Devastator options displayed contained Lascannons and Heavy Bolters
- the Assault options were Breaching Drills (like that arm FW’s Siege Dread has) with Stormbolters(?) attached, no other arm option shown
- the “chest weapon” apparently gave us choice of : frag lanuchers, mini-hurricane bolter (?!) and some rockets (chest mounted Typhoon ML?)
- it will take some time getting used to those models on battlefield but with their bulky simplicity they will surely be canon part of fluff in few years

That’s all I remember. Hope it will give you some idea / clear some things up
Cheers!

Only One Question…

… if so many people saw the next White Dwarf, where are the pictures!!!

Z.

 

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  • Adamshifnal

    So by the sounds of things, CSM yet again are getting put back in the dark with their old kits. Plus Space Marines getting a dubbed down Obliterator via these Centurions….which makes no sense since that is a rank within the Legio Astartes.

    Instead of bumming the Space Marines all the time, how about bringing back the Thousand Sons boxset, giving Plague Marines and Thousand Sons a 10man boxset, a new boxset for Chaos Space Marines so I could actually take the weapon options given in the Codex and maybe a nice FAQ that brings down the points cost of the Defiler……

    • http://pinsofwar.net/ Zweischneid

      I could certainly get behind all these…

      Doesn’t seem to be high on GW’s priority, admittedly. That said, the DV Chosen etc.. are very nice, CSM have a plastic HQ for both Power-Armour and Terminator Armour, and the rather cool Fiends (at least I like them):

      It’s not as doom and gloom as people make it out to be. They are not more “in the dark” than Tau with Finecast Vespid or Eldar with ancient Aspect Warrior kits, really. And unlike the latter, it’s usually easer to convert up some CSM-stuff from the Space Marines miniatures (I know, not the “ideal” solution, but it does work).

  • Jeff Martin

    Seeing other armies get all of these incredible upgrades and the SM get basically pissed on (let’s face it guys this was a placating afterthought nothing more) really has me bummed. The message GW is screaming loud and clear to us is:

    If you want anything SM that doesn’t look incredibly stupid you have to buy the premium priced FW models.

    • http://pinsofwar.net/ Zweischneid

      I disagree.

      I am continually impressed with GW innovating and pushing the envelope, whereas Forge World seems to have largely just given up.

      FW’s Horus Heresy book is just one big copy-&-paste from Black Library, down to unit names and named characters. The miniatures are nice sculpts, no doubt, but they are all fairly timid iterations of the same old Space Marine and Terminator aesthetics.

      It’s a far cry from the Forge World that dared break new ground for (than) stagnant miniatures lines like the Tau (e.g. XV9 suits) or Eldar (e.g. Shadow Specters)

      In contrast, the GW-studio is really not afraid to try new things. The large Walkers like the Riptide or Wraithknight, even the flyers, would’ve been things from the (back than) more innovation-happy Forge World as little as 2 or 3 years ago.

      And even in this, GW is not content. They could’ve easily done a “Space-Marines-Riptide”, since they are on a roll. But they choose not to, instead going once again into a brand new, unfamiliar direction.

      I get that the Centurions aren’t everyone’s cup of tea (though I do like them, and believe more people will as soon as 360-views are there), but they demonstrate a passion for innovation and experimentation that Forge World has sadly lost in recent years.

      • Jeff Martin

        I see the FW models as a more badass counterpart of the oftentimes ridiculous sculpts of GW, I hope that the 360 views will redeem the Centurions, but feedback from those who attended GD was that GW is pretty much aware these reveals are being met with little enthusiasm, where the Dark Angles Tau and Eldar have been met with rapt appreciation.

        And honestly I just can’s see how anyone can look at things like this

        http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CASTELLAX_BATTLE_AUTOMATA.html

        and this

        http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MAGOS_DOMINUS_WITH_RAD_CLEANSER.html

        and say less innovative. Than say this total unselling disaster

        http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2130072a

        Honestly where forge world is going to me at least is speaking to the direction that GW should go as it embraces the gothic grimdark that separates it from the been there done that aspect of most other tabletop games. I have been a player since the rouge trader days and have seen GW go through a great many changes in sculpts and direction….I just think this is s step back.